We went today and got a chance to meet the great guys from crystal squid.  I would just like to say a big thanks to Dom and Simon for their words of encouragement.  These guys know the games industry and were a true pleasure to talk to, I hope it goes well for you guys and may our paths cross again.  Pop in and say hi to AMD, they take the time to address performance issues on the latest platforms ... FX51 and the dual (impressive) opteron.  Really worth a visit.

G D

Well if Java 1.1 is good enough for EA ...
Click Me
G Darc

Actually the quality was quite acceptable.  

However ...
<ThreadJack>OK here is the platform independant technology for those with a petite arse then :-P http://www.on2.com/jplayer/index.php3 </ThreadJack>

oNyx: Give this link a whirl Linky

GD

*I would hazard a guess at the convoluted delivery method being due to the fact that it is an interface to lots of Sun related media*

I have placed a link to the webcasts/streams on the first post.

Chris looked a bit rushed, he just had time to mention the winner and show Java Quake runnning :-) at 300 fps.

The Prize goes to Super Elvis :-)
Congrats Caz.

* Side note, the Phantom console will support Java
* Side note 2, Looking Glass opensourced during general session.

Watch the stream (when its up)

Ill be there, I hope Nandos is still round the corner  
Blah: If you convince Chris to make a handfull of JavaGaming shirts available Ill show you some Guerilla marketing in action (no stand required).

Im also dying to try out the new MS/Sun friendly alliance  


GD

Judging always seems to feature beer and we all know it takes hand eye co-ordination to fly a plane.


*Spelling too

Thats a good idea

Details of this years ECTS show are available HERE

you can register online HERE

It would be nice to see a SUN stand.

GD

*And ofcourse the GDCE details GDCE details

ECTS 2004
Earls Court London

I shall start a new thread with details ....

PS I may clean up this thread the community way

Lost in translation
Fair enough, apologies if I misunderstood.
Ill buy you a beer if I see you at ECTS

Bi-Polarity must be catchy.


OK post can now be De-Rezed

Guile

UberMod

Kev: No need this topic will self distruct after Blah has read it.

Guile
Nearly Banned -j0k3  

Impressive: Same problems here concerning Z fighting and Texture anomalies this might help

Spec:
Athlon XP 2400+  
1.5 GB
XP sp1
Radeon 9200

[Rant Alert]
No idea why every post seems to turn into a battle, I shall make the effort one last time...
If anything you have just proved the point that a free unbiased and "open to all" forum is the best place to discuss links.  Otherwise how could you have expanded on the strengths or weaknesses of two MMOG technologies (Zona & Grex)?

As to the link to Zona;  I understand that Grex is your baby, excuse me for thinking you might be interested in what other companies are doing with Java rather than pandering to your ego.  If you recall the whole purpose of sharing links in the first place was to capture the state of Java in the games industry.  Although I could send you a link to your own website or the feature on Javagaming if it makes you happy.

This is me in a nutshell:
Gaming should be fun - When i'm on JavaGaming or in front of my desktop I should be having fun.
I did not sign up for www.ForumJousting.com or www.YouShallConformToMyNarrowDefinitionOfAcceptableJavaGaming.org [no dont bother] In view of this I simply chose to play in a bigger sandbox (if you will pardon the pun).

Though not in sequence and gleaned from recent replies this should sound familiar and should not be misconstrued as a personal attack.

**Parental Advisory::not to be taken out of context.**
A forum and community should be a free exchange of ideas in my opinion, whether the views are in  concert or diametrically opposed to ones own *Not Filtered*. This one also includes the Freedom to have you set fire to any of my posts, remove links from the Wiki (or even better) add your own.  This way extreme ideas can be tempered for the common good.
You have openly admitted to being biased, hating applets and seem to think every post is a personal attack against you or Grex.  This topic could have resulted in a one click reference to anyone who doubted the adoption of Java as a serious gaming proposition.
[/Rant Alert]


God bless
Guile D'Arc

Reasn I axed 4 all of us to share linx was cuz im 2 la-z 2 find them all myslf.  Seriously though I think that a community approach would be better especially as I have a weird sense of loyalty to the Folks here For championing the cause for so long (Oh the early days of Cazs terrain demo and ChrisMs Space Ghost Avatar).  Although it could be an addiction to this forum as I get twitchy if I dont visit for a while.
Shame I had a killer idea for your Survivor game, nevermind hey

No need to be sorry, your bipolar personality is fascinating  

God Bless
Guile dArc

Found the problem alt tabbed across to background and the Half frame rate was caused by

Firewall dialog x3 Communication Attempt by Javaw.exe
and
Modeller complained about Direct3D Device connection lost due to interaction with Direct3D by another application.


My Bad.
GD

Cas: Framerate has taken a dive on my system in this incarnation.

spec:
Athlon XP 2400+
1.5 GB
XP sp1
Radeon 9200

Here is a thought... Change Elvis for Johnny Bravo and sell it to the cartoon network.

any day now mumma
G D'Arc

Cas: That will teach me to post BC (Before coffee). whaddya mean didnt get you.

Blah: I actually didnt want to post in the wiki in the first place .. To explain:
It would be nice to have a single point of reference as to the comercially viable games companies making use of Java in the industry and with technology of interest to developers.

Please take your time to check out the links;
Superscape have Swerve studio

Sumea have been touting the Sumea Engine for a while (Check Goodies section)

Zona have an MMOG  solution that makes use of java server side.

Which leaves Blam (Polished game some will find inspiring)

The applets section already existed I just thought it rude not to add something

Anywho,
That will teach me to contribute next time  

Doh!
Thanks Mate

* Mind you: Tumble weeds. *
OK updated the links section... anyone else ?

Developer Resources Links on JavaGaming Wiki, not to be confused with Libraries of any descripition
Har Har

Hi All,
What do you all think of having a section devoted to links to usefull information wrt Java gaming?
This section would also include links to companies or other 3rd parties involved in the java gaming biz. Additions could be replies to main topics and once verified the [Sticky] list topic would include the resource.

a typical example of a usefull document would be
The Games Industry Is Not Playing Around

and a typical site list could include the likes of
www.superscape.com
www.sumea.com
www.blam.com
etc etc.

Regards
G D'Arc

oops Fathammer not java related ;-)

Hi DanS3,
A quick method is to zip them up (winzip or such like) rename the file to whatever.jar and then specify the jar file/applet class in you applet tag ..

code="target class file contained in jar" archive="whatever the jar file.jar"

But I advise you download the jdk, as using suns classes to develop applets is more rewarding as you remain within the bounds of Real Java and not Mutant Java as oNyx likes to refer to it ;-).

Also be aware that the  Jar tool serves more purposes than just packaging, so its worthy of consideration.

Please take a look at Jar Files
I draw your attention to these sections to illustrate the point
Understanding The Manifest File
Signing and Verifying JAR Files

Regards
Guile
3:00 am Tired
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