I tested this and it is not true for my unsigned applets in 6u20

not true

so try this one maybe :

http://www.java4k.com/index.php?action=games&method=view&gid=302
http://www.java4k.com/index.php?action=games&method=view&gid=291

also if you use webmin to manage a server try it !

or maybe some demo applet from sun ? http://java.sun.com/applets/

or some lwjgl applets demo maybe http://lwjgl.org/applet/

I did not change anything between u19 and u20 but I got the warning just after I installed u20 not before, so  could you point me the setting I may have changed ?

All I can say is that for me it works just like in 6u19

I got this one everywhere now (see image enclosed to this post), so maybe the update did something wrong and whenged my setting ? do am I alone ?


"it say the application requiere an older java version, do you want ot continue ?"

Now we really need our own plugin, with a proper security manager.

Oracle doesn't give a damn about user experience / correct code.

By making a nice application. People are willing to install anything, if they think it's worth it.

Then again, it's horrible for the casual / drive-by visitors...

hey hey very nice idea... I mean to go further maybe we can use a cupple of existing plugin to propagate our own not just silverlight but all plugin that have a significant market ( dont know if flash can do signed like stuff ? )

I have reinstalled java.. after restart java was no more on my computer... so as for the u19 I needed to make two successive (three in reality with the online update) to make things works again.... now it is ok no more popup but how it will be perceived by other users ....

so the plugin base may be something like :
1 -> test if the "new plugin" is deployed ? yes launch the applet
2 -> if no then try to deploy "new plugin" using one of the user installed plugin : silverlight / activex / other...

As hard as it is to make a clipped, undecorated frame/window following a DOM element on a webpage, with a specific ID.

Anybody?

seems that it is a plugin update problem more than a plugin itself  problem, you'r lucky I need to re-intall java plugin for both u19 & u20

This looks like crazy talk, I've tested this u20 release, loaded several applets flawlessly and without any security warning - including some of the mentioned java4k games. I guess it's only the applets using mixed trusted/untrusted code that have such problems? Any links?

Before this I had u17, I went to the Java control panel and clicked update now, then it installed me u20. I restarted browser then I tried one of the DzzD applets. The 3D Car game (software) showed me a dialog saying about the security certificate not being verified (e.g the usual one) I clicked accept, then it told me that applet used signed and unsigned components and if I want to disable them, I said no and the applet worked.
Okay, now I try 3D Car game (hardware), it takes a while to load, but no dialogs are shown it just works.
If I choose to "block unsafe components" then I get an exception, in the log it says sandbox loader tried to accept signed data or something like that.

So I guess its possible to make this work, as long as we follow the requirements it might be possible to just get the dialog about the security certificate like the usual and thats it.

This is weird, because I have both version 6.0.170 and 6.0.200 and I never saw a window like this. Actually what is this "Java Deployment Toolkit" anyway? I've never seen it before.

But I doubt the average user would use the JDK, as long as the popup doesnt also apply for the JRE.