Revenge of the Titans

[Riven]

Vista Home Premium: 64 bit
Not running as administrator, UAC enabled.



It gives this warning on every file.

The whole directory "C:\Program Files (x86)\RevengeOfTheTitants\" is non-existent after the installation.

[princec]

Works on Vista Ultimate 64 here with UAC enabled... :/ It should have done a UAC prompt, yes?

Cas

[Riven]

Nope

Games published by our own members! Go get 'em!

[Riven]

The bug of enemies getting stuck in unreachable places is still there.

[princec]

Oh! Maybe you're running an old one then. Have another download and see if the installer's fixed.

Cas

[Riven]

Oh! Maybe you're running an old one then. Have another download and see if the installer's fixed.

Cas

If you're suggesting I launched the wrong installer, that's not the case.

I *can* however access all my previously played levels.

[Spasi]

The new installer worked for me for Program Files, but without a prompt. The account had admin privileges.

[CaptainJester]

My only real complaint is the order that turrets attack the gidrahs in.  I had a line of 4 going for my base and the towers attacked #2 then 3 then 4 and by that time there were more in range so instead of attacking the closet one to the base they attacked the new ones in range.  I think the order should always be the closest one to the main base first.

[princec]

Currently they latch on to the closest gidrah to the turret and stick with that target until it's dead I need to also sort out a way so that turrets preferentially attack targets that they are better at damaging.

Cas

[kappa]

cool nice to see the launch doing well, looks like this might be the game that makes puppygames rich

btw the trailers is really cool & nicely done. You should get on to gametrailers, just email it to "trailers at gametrailers dot com"

Games published by our own members! Go get 'em!

[appel]

Congratulations in getting the game released!

Once again, you put us all to shame

[Eli Delventhal]

Just bought it. Congrats!

[princec]

Massive massive thanks to your support Maybe we'll get to go full time, yet! As of right now we're 4.8% of the way to being full time!!

Cas

[kappa]

Massive massive thanks to your support Maybe we'll get to go full time, yet! As of right now we're 4.8% of the way to being full time!!

Cas

any news if you'll make it to steam?

[Eli Delventhal]

Played through all the levels available so far, good stuff. My one main critique is that it feels like have just a bit too small amount of cash, oh yeah and also it's not quite predictable enough where the titans will go (so I have a difficult time knowing where to build). I'd rather the assist-type buildings (silo, fire-limit building, etc.) just be passive upgrades. I'm always way too short on money anyway to build a building that's just going to increase capacity - I bet you'll find that almost no players use those at all. Because you've got to make sure to end a level with a decent amount of cash as well you're much less likely to build anything that isn't directly helping you. All this adds up to feeling like my bases and research aren't quite as awesome as I want them to be and that I'm mostly winning by luck or just barely.

[princec]

Steam's all secret.

Not enough money? You're not building enough refineries!

Cas

[Eli Delventhal]

Steam's all secret.

Not enough money? You're not building enough refineries!

Cas

I always run out of minerals.

[Riven]

I always run out of minerals.

It's a strategy game, not arcade

[DavidX]

got an error

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Window sized to 1137 x 640 x 0 @0Hz         at java.util.Arrays.copyOf(Unknown Source)         at java.io.ByteArrayOutputStream.toByteArray(Unknown Source)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.sound.OggVorbis.doCreate(OggVorbis.java:489)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.allocate(Resources.java:466)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resource.create(Resource.java:154)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.get(Resources.java:179)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.openal.SoundBank.doCreate(SoundBank.java:99)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.allocate(Resources.java:466)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resource.create(Resource.java:154)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.openal.SoundClip.doCreate(SoundClip.java:91)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.allocate(Resources.java:466)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resource.create(Resource.java:154)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.get(Resources.java:179)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.openal.ALBuffer.doALCreate(ALBuffer.java:136)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.openal.ALResource.doCreate(ALResource.java:76)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.allocate(Resources.java:466)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resource.create(Resource.java:154)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.get(Resources.java:179)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.resources.Feature.defaultCreation(Feature.java: 230)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.resources.Feature.doCreate(Feature.java:278)         at worm.SFX.doCreate(SFX.java:111)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resources.allocate(Resources.java:466)         at com.shavenpuppy.jglib.Resource.create(Resource.java:154)         at net.puppygames.applet.effects.SFX.createSFX(SFX.java:132)         at net.puppygames.applet.Game.init(Game.java:641)         at net.puppygames.applet.Launcher.main(Launcher.java:64) [/quote]

[princec]

Aha cheers!
Can you give me a bit more info (system specs) and maybe dig out the log files?

Cas

[DavidX]

Windows 7 x86 RC 2

Intel i5 Core @ 2.4GHz

nVidia GTX 220M

java version "1.6.0_14"
Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_14-b08)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 14.0-b16, mixed mode, sharing)

[princec]

Hey all, there's a new version up! This is 1.3, and it's got Mars in it! 10 more levels, with 4 new gidrahs, nice new scenery, and a really disgusting boss! The game has been tweaked in a vast number of tweaky ways, and is now using LWJGL 2.5 nightlies, so it might even work on a few more machines. Please note that you'll probably need to start again at level 1 as we've changed rather a lot of things.

Head on over to the info page and download!

Cas

[princec]

Much more better 1.4 release up now.

Cas

[cylab]

Bought and played RotT 1.4 til Mars and here is my feedback:

+ Great game
+ Nice presentation, artwork, music and sound
+ VERY addictive (only... that... level... then... sleep... aaah... only... that... next... level... then...)

+/- coupling of research funds and level budget is strategicly nice but makes it easy to
      shoot oneself in the foot (starting a level completely broke )
+/- Random level generation on "replay level"

- I researched automation, but can't automate collection and reloading
- Doing a reload/collect in the middle of some building activity clears the selected build unit,
   would be nice to just continue building with the last selected unit
- Fullscreen crashes on my Win7 Acer
- Activation by e-mail-address. Anybody knowing my address can "steal" the game _and_ find out
   my real address, since it is shown in the start screen!!!

Some nice-to-haves:
o Keyboard shortcuts for selecting build units or cycling through attack fronts etc.
o "Sell building" feature - accidently building Silos instead of Batteries could be deadly
   also having to watch your base getting destroyed by a Boss because of all turrents
   being on the wrong side is rather frustrating
o Barricade refill after a certain amount of them is destroyed
o Barricades that forces the titans to move around them, so you can build a turret mace
o More diversity in GFX like having an actual City to defend.
o More obvious effect on Berserk like a glowing screen frame or a shaking screen

So long I enjoyed this very much - hope you have huge success with it and get rich or something

[princec]

Great feedback Mathias! Saturn release 1.5 at the weekend.

I'm considering restricting the money you can spend on research to 50% of your current budget.

Random level generation is now far less random on subsequent replays. Well, in fact it's identical. You can now optionally play the same level again, at the same difficulty; or generate a new, slightly easier level, losing a little "honour". (In the next release there will be achievements for defeating levels in 1 attempt etc)

Sorry about fullscreen - nothing I can do to fix that - you just need working drivers.

We have a good solution for the email address thing which we're going to implement over the next few weeks.

All buildings and UI elements have keyboard shortcuts already. Hover over them to see the shortcut key.

Still very averse to "Sell" function. The game was sort of fundamentally designed without it. Likewise barricade replenishment - although on later worlds you will receive more of them per level. The barricades never force the gidrahs to move around them, as everything can be bashed down ultimately. The gidrahs leave it to their discretion as to whether to walk around them or bash them down depending on how clever they are and how anxious.

Bezerk effect is a long-term incumbent on the to-do list

We'll never get rich doing it but we might just break even on this one.

Cas

[cylab]

I'm considering restricting the money you can spend on research to 50% of your current budget.

I would vote for a fixed value like 2000$ or something (maybe dependent on the next level).

Random level generation is now far less random on subsequent replays. Well, in fact it's identical. You can now optionally play the same level again, at the same difficulty; or generate a new, slightly easier level, losing a little "honour". (In the next release there will be achievements for defeating levels in 1 attempt etc)

Nice - sounds like the optimal solution!

All buildings and UI elements have keyboard shortcuts already. Hover over them to see the shortcut key.

Oops - I even looked for them in the help screens Maybe add a word there.

Still very averse to "Sell" function. The game was sort of fundamentally designed without it. Likewise barricade replenishment - although on later worlds you will receive more of them per level. The barricades never force the gidrahs to move around them, as everything can be bashed down ultimately. The gidrahs leave it to their discretion as to whether to walk around them or bash them down depending on how clever they are and how anxious.

OK, I understand all that, but its still frustrating to sit the last minute of a level with really nothing to do than watching the boss destroying your base. Maybe offer some more extras on low money or some psych stuff letting gidrahs choose a differnt path. Anything that would not let you feel so helpless. In one level most of the gidrahs came from lower left and the boss came from upper right, so I had no chance to build up enough firepower for him.

OK - maybe I just suck at RotT  

Edit: Finished Elysium by now - was great!

We'll never get rich doing it but we might just break even on this one.

Good luck then and maybe get rich with Titans Forever then

[cylab]

I'm considering restricting the money you can spend on research to 50% of your current budget.

I would vote for a fixed value like 2000$ or something (maybe dependent on the next level).

Actually I take it back. Leave it like it is - it's a nice struggle to decide to start with enough money or e.g. the new autocollector. It also offers better replay value when you can try the other alternative after loosing.

OK, I understand all that, but its still frustrating to sit the last minute of a level with really nothing to do than watching the boss destroying your base. Maybe offer some more extras on low money or some psych stuff letting gidrahs choose a differnt path. Anything that would not let you feel so helpless. In one level most of the gidrahs came from lower left and the boss came from upper right, so I had no chance to build up enough firepower for him.

Some ideas about that

- Research option "Recycle" that let you recycle X buildings for 80% value or something (ok, this is "sell", but more restricted)

- "Recylce" as an extra. Maybe spawn more of them in boss levels on low money.

- Research option "Relocation", that let you relocate a building or an area (so you can relocate support buildings, too).

- "Relocation" as an extra. Maybe spawn more of them in boss levels on low money.

The latter seems like a fitting addition to me, which would solve "my" problem - but may be a lot of work, especially on relocating an area. 

[princec]

I think a "Sell" button is definitely going to be in there, but not in time for Saturn, as it requires a fairly extensive twiddle of the bottom HUD UI. Sell value of buildings is 40% of their cost, factored against how damaged they are.

Cas

[cylab]

Sorry about fullscreen - nothing I can do to fix that - you just need working drivers.

Newest Win7 driver for the intel 4500MHD fixed ity, thanks for the hint.

[princec]

Saturn released! http://www.puppygames.net/blog/?p=436

Links in the blog post.

What do you think? Improved somewhat? Still works ok? Installs ok?

Cas